Yes, you can download Zend at the URL Matt sent or www.zend.com/i5 may
be easier to remember.
Additionally, there is free web-based support so you can easily inquire
about setting up Apache. If you want to evaluate PHP on your local PC
then shoot me an email (or I can paste some directions here) and I'll
inform you how to load Core for IBM w/ DB2 Express.
This installs a PHP distribution, the apache webserver, and DB2 Express.
This way you transfer DB2/400 data to DB2 Express and you can work with
your data locally.
Regards,
Jim Dillard
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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Haas, Matt (CL Tech Sv)
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 11:13 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Books
You'll want to get PHP from
http://www.zend.com/products/zend_core/zend_core_for_i5_os (you can get
more than just the runtime from them and this is the supported version).
Your understanding of what PHP is is correct. You are also correct in
that there is a lot of trendyness for web tools. Java has several
plusses (like lots of different tools available for various things) but
the learning curve is very, very steep and then on top of it, you also
have to learn stuff about the application server (WebSphere is one,
Tomcat is another).
I haven't done much with PHP but it is easy to pick up on, it's cross
platform (which is nice since you can mess with it locally but be aware
that the version you can get from Zend has i5/OS specific parts), and
there's lots of community support.
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Pat Barber
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:31 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Books
The biggest problem I have come across are all the new terms for the
tools.
PHP is proabably a tool but I have no idea.
(before hitting enter... I did a search...)
http://www.php.net/
It would appear that php is a language of some sort.(open source) that
is stuffed into html. It is not clear from that web site who you might
call if your PHP breaks. I doubt anybody could actually be called. It
would appear to be code developed in Europe.
A lot of the web stuff seems to be what ever is "trendy" at the moment.
I don't see any tool development aids mentioned over and over again.
It seems that everybody(even this list) have a different slant on "which
way to go", which tells me that there are several ways to go.
I recall IBM pushing Java as the next coming, but I see a lot of
conversation that says exactly the opposite. It's really tough to sort
through all this.
Like I said earlier, I got a LOT of reading to do.
Haas, Matt (CL Tech Sv) wrote:
Pat,
WebSphere is just another tool for delivering dynamic web content. You
can certainly use CGI which has a much smaller learning curve than Java
but PHP is also a supported option now (on V5R3 and newer systems) and
there are a lot of 3rd party tools for web development. Also, IBM is
supporting CGIDEV2 (which competes with Brad's tooling and I think Bob
Cozzi also has something similar). Net.Data is also an option but I
would choose PHP over it if I were starting from scratch today.
Before you start using these tools, it would be well worth the effort
to learn about how HTTP works (this also helps with setting up HTTP
servers which is why Professional Apache 2.0 covers this topic) and
write a few simple web programs that don't use any of the available
frameworks just to get a good understanding of what's going on. It's
also a good idea to get an understanding of how CGI works since all of
the communication between a web app and the HTTP server works basically
the same way. BTW, HTTP and CGI are pretty straight forward and as long
as you don't dive too deep into them (at least when you are starting
out) shouldn't take much time to get up to speed with.
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