Re: Basic question on XML structure

[David FOXWELL <David.FOXWELL@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all,

Vern, am I relieved to read that YOU are confused!
Posted last night before leaving the office. Just arrived to find a rather long thread has developped. 
Sorry to say that I'm none the wiser, even I could see that the example with the <children> element was more human readable.

I'm going to be processing this XML with XSL-FO. As I'm new to that language as well and I haven't used it for a while, maybe I should think about how I'm going to write my XSL.

But, here's a question : should I be writing the XML so that it is easily read by XSL? Like I'd do in a simple chain of RPG programs : extraction by the first into a workfile, then read the workfile that is structured so that the 2nd RPG can do the report with the cycle and no C specs. Should I have to think about the technology used to process the XML?



> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] De la part de Vern Hamberg
> Envoyé : mercredi 10 mars 2010 00:35
> À : Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
> Objet : Re: [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
>
> Well, he DID say it was not well-structured - did he mean it 
> is not well-formed? Am I mistaken there? I had no problem 
> understanding David's "structure", even though indentation 
> and white-space would have clarified it. It is obvious to me 
> that <name> and <child> were siblings
> - human readability is nice but not required for well-formed 
> XML, as far as I know.
>
> Still confused!
> Vern
>
> Neill Harper wrote:
> > Yeah sorry might be a little bit of confusion here.
> >
> > I was questioning "You express the XML snippits wrong"
> >
> > I can see now that what you were getting at is that for the 
> purposes 
> > of readability (by a human) siblings should have the same 
> indentation level.
> > And you were not suggesting that the OP's original post would not 
> > parse or was not valid XML.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Neill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > On Behalf Of hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: 09 March 2010 21:13
> > To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
> > Subject: Re: [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
> >
> > I wrote my example with idents like you walk trough the memory 
> > structure in a hirachical data structure making who is who in a 
> > parent/child/sibling understandable
> >
> > <client>
> >      <name>
> >            <child>
> >
> > isn't true "child and name" are siblings and "name" is not 
> the parent 
> > of "child", "client" are, and therefore they should be 
> expressed like this:
> > <client>
> >      <name>
> >      <child>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
> > web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09-03-2010 21:36 Please respond to Web 
> > Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > To
> > "Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Re: [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I saw it right away.  I also saw it in the original 
> poster's example.
> > But it has nothing to do with my question.
> >
> > Along with Neill I am asking what is different between 
> yours and the 
> > original posters?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:34 PM, <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >   
> > > Can't you see where the array is and isn't in this structure:
> > >
> > > Lets make is visiual:
> > >
> > > <client>
> > >    <name>bill</name>
> > >    <children>
> > >        <child>
> > >            <name>jon</name>
> > >        </child>
> > >        <child>
> > >            <name>joe</name>
> > >        </child>
> > >          <child>
> > >            <name>alex</name>
> > >        </child>
> > >        <child>
> > >            <name>peter</name>
> > >        </child>
> > >   </children>
> > >   <address>My home street</address>
> > > </client>
> > >
> > > <client>
> > >    <name>bill</name>
> > >    <child>
> > >        <name>jon</name>
> > >    </child>
> > >    <child>
> > >        <name>joe</name>
> > >    </child>
> > >     <address>My home street</address>
> > >    <child>
> > >        <name>alex</name>
> > >    </child>
> > >    <child>
> > >        <name>peter</name>
> > >    </child>
> > > </client>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
> > > web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09-03-2010 20:54 Please respond to Web 
> > > Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >
> > >
> > > To
> > > "Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc
> > >
> > > Subject
> > > Re: [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see it.  I need another clue.
> > >
> > > Or else save us all time and just tell us.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:52 PM, <hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >     
> > > > You should look at my second example, it explains it all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Neill Harper" <neill.harper@xxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
> > > > web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09-03-2010 20:17 Please 
> respond to Web 
> > > > Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To
> > > > "'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc
> > > >
> > > > Subject
> > > > Re: [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can't spot the difference between your snippet and the 
> OP's apart
> > > >       
> > from
> >   
> > > > the
> > > > whitespace, which will of course be ignored by a 
> standards compliant 
> > > > parser anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Did I miss something else?
> > > >
> > > > Neill
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > > [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >       
> > > On
> > >     
> > > > Behalf Of hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: 09 March 2010 18:55
> > > > To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
> > > > Subject: Re: [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
> > > >
> > > > You express the XML snippits wrong, it should be
> > > >
> > > > <client>
> > > >    <name>bill</name>
> > > >    <children>
> > > >        <child>
> > > >            <name>jon</name>
> > > >        </child>
> > > >        <child>
> > > >            <name>joe</name>
> > > >        </child>
> > > >    </children>
> > > > </client>
> > > >
> > > > <client>
> > > >    <name>bill</name>
> > > >    <child>
> > > >        <name>jon</name>
> > > >    </child>
> > > >    <child>
> > > >        <name>joe</name>
> > > >    </child>
> > > > </client>
> > > >
> > > > The first structure is weel structured, the second isn't.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David FOXWELL <David.FOXWELL@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: 
> > > > web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09-03-2010 18:12 Please 
> respond to Web 
> > > > Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To
> > > > Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc
> > > >
> > > > Subject
> > > > [WEB400] Basic question on XML structure
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > A little inexperienced in xml here.
> > > >
> > > > Compare these 2 structures :
> > > >
> > > > <client>
> > > > <name>bill</name>
> > > > <children>
> > > >    <child>
> > > >        <name>jon</name>
> > > >    </child>
> > > >    <child>
> > > >        <name>joe</name>
> > > >    </child>
> > > > </children>
> > > > </client>
> > > >
> > > > <client>
> > > > <name>bill</name>
> > > >    <child>
> > > >        <name>jon</name>
> > > >    </child>
> > > >    <child>
> > > >        <name>joe</name>
> > > >    </child>
> > > > </client>
> > > >
> > > > Are there any advantages or disadvantages to using or not 
> using the 
> > > > element <children>?
> > > >
> > > > We do not use attributes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
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