Re: IBM i GUI Frameworks -- WEB400

Hello

The RNS Framework is under the most liberal license we could find at the time: The Open Source MPL Licence Version 1.1 (http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/). We have not reviewed this since selecting it so it may not be the best available now â but it hasnât caused us any issues to-date. The wysiwyg RNS IDE license is TBD and we probably wonât make a decision until we are closer to RC1 for that. I am not aware of any licensing issues with CGIDEV2 that preclude it from being incorporated in RNS under the MPL. The LGPL sounds good also, but we do like the âfeedback your changesâ aspect of the MPL we use â it has been very beneficial, especially for bug fixes.

It is unlikely that Davidâs suggestion would be practical for us in the immediate future. For us, the features in the RNS Framework are very much driven by the requirements of the applications we have that use it, which in turn are driven by the requirements of the customers who use them. This being so, a collaboration that enables us to continue that way would be trickyâ.for now. RNS is also now heavily integrated with jQuery and jQuery UI â and I am not sure how that sits with OpenRPGUI. Certainly trying to combine jQuery with powerExt (ExtJS) seems like it might be overcomplicating both to an unnecessary degree.
Probably all three things have aspects that some people will like and dislike, so you pay your money (or not as it happens) and make your choice.

Rgds
Kevin

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From: Aaron Bartell [mailto:aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 September 2010 19:22
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Cc: Kevin Turner
Subject: Re: [WEB400] IBM i GUI Frameworks

FYI, we just release a new site for RPGUI that is going to be announced this week. It is now named OpenRPGUI and can be found at <http://www.OpenRPGUI.com> www.OpenRPGUI.com<http://www.OpenRPGUI.com>

Here are some fundamental differences:

1) powerEXT and Renaissance both make use of CGIDEV2 which has license issues. Not saying they aren't excellently developed, because they are from what I have seen.

2) powerEXT is GPLv3 and requires a license more or less (unless you open source your application which is highly unlikely - Henrik, let me know if I am incorrect). This means I can't use powerEXT source in OpenRPGUI. OpenRPGUI is LGPL which is much more liberal (i.e. better for developers) and doesn't require you to submit your changes back to the core product or open source your application.

3) OpenRPGUI makes more use of a "display file talks to controller" approach. You can see what I mean by going here: <http://red.rpg-xml.com/oru11/dspf/custmaint.html> http://red.rpg-xml.com/oru11/dspf/custmaint.html. I am not sure whether powerEXT or Ren takes this approach, but I am finding it saves me A LOT of coding time.

I am not for certain what license Ren is distributed under. Maybe Kevin Turner can respond on that note. If it is under a liberal license there we could make use of it in OpenRPGUI. I am not against doing co-development, but I doubt we could fold any of these together into one.

Aaron Bartell
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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:20 AM, David O'Driscoll <<mailto:dod11@xxxxxxxxxxx>dod11@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dod11@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

There is the RPGUI framework, the powerEXT framework, and the Renaissance Framework, all open source projects. All of these are trying to achieve fairly much the same thing, and all of these are following a similar approach. Normally competition is a good thing, but given the small size of each team, wouldn't it be substantially better for the i community to combine the efforts?
David O'Driscoll

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