That is an interesting viewpoint. I am not sure how David's original question got immediately twisted into a discussion about licensing, but since I was asked directly (about licensing) I thought I ought to respond.
To your point Nathan, for us there is an agenda, but it is not really hidden. Our revenues are derived from the applications we develop and sell which make use of the Renaissance Framework - and by making that Framework freely available under an MPL licence we gain value in the form of more comprehensive testing, enhancements and bug-fixes. At first there was very little of this (as you would expect), but now it is increasing. Also, as Thorbjørn mentioned, there may be scope for Consultancy revenues later on which would be an added bonus.
Kevin
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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathan Andelin
Sent: 16 September 2010 05:51
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] IBM i GUI Frameworks
I don't know if this is a reflection of the software industry in general, or a
reflection of the frameworks under consideration here, but it's questionable
when one's primary message for gaining traction in the market is that one's
product is free and offered under the most liberal license, anywhere. It
doesn't have any value? You're a bona fide philanthropist? There's a hidden
agenda?
-Nathan.
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From: Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 12:21:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] IBM i GUI Frameworks
FYI, we just release a new site for RPGUI that is going to be announced this
week. It is now named OpenRPGUI and can be found at www.OpenRPGUI.com
Here are some fundamental differences:
1) powerEXT and Renaissance both make use of CGIDEV2 which has license
issues. Not saying they aren't excellently developed, because they are from
what I have seen.
2) powerEXT is GPLv3 and requires a license more or less (unless you open
source your application which is highly unlikely - Henrik, let me know if I
am incorrect). This means I can't use powerEXT source in OpenRPGUI.
OpenRPGUI is LGPL which is much more liberal (i.e. better for developers)
and doesn't require you to submit your changes back to the core product or
open source your application.
3) OpenRPGUI makes more use of a "display file talks to controller"
approach. You can see what I mean by going here:
http://red.rpg-xml.com/oru11/dspf/custmaint.html. I am not sure whether
powerEXT or Ren takes this approach, but I am finding it saves me A LOT of
coding time.
I am not for certain what license Ren is distributed under. Maybe Kevin
Turner can respond on that note. If it is under a liberal license there we
could make use of it in OpenRPGUI. I am not against doing co-development,
but I doubt we could fold any of these together into one.
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
http://mowyourlawn.com/blog/
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