Re: IBM i in the cloud (was social media)

[Bryce Martin <BMartin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Did you read section 3.d?  :)


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Well, pedantic can save a trip to our attorneys :-)  I found the other doc 
I
was thinking about and it lays out the guidelines much better.  I am 
pretty
sure this is the one I remember reading that really locks down the usage
(some reasonable and some not).

http://mowyourlawn.com/temp/IBMCustomerAgreementAttachmentForDeveloperDiscount.pdf

(see section 3.c)


Aaron Bartell
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

> We don't need to get pedantic about IBM's discount programs.  It comes 
down
> to
> filling out an application and discussing it with program 
administrators.
>  It
> appears to me that there isn't much difference between a larger ISV and 
a
> developer cooperative as far as the discounts are concerned.  It's more 
a
> matter
> of what the platform is used for.  In case of PID, it's used for 
developing
> at
> least one approved application.
>
> My biggest question has to do with using IBM i servers for hosting
> production
> applications for commercial purposes.  My recollection was that 
discounted
> machines were not licensed for that.  But there wasn't any mention of it 
in
> the
> agreement you posted.  Whatever the case, it seems to me that a a
> cooperative
> could be a good business model for both developing and hosting 
commercial
> applications, anyway.
>
> -Nathan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 5:09:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [WEB400] IBM i in the cloud (was social media)
>
> Yep, I totally agree.  In the end it is the spirit of the matter of
> what we are trying to accomplish.  But I could also see IBM having
> issue with machines being sold for 50% off that were used to host
> cooperative production workloads - even if they were selling IBMi
> software.
>
> I don't plan on stretching the rules, but I would be intrigued to hear
> IBM's opinion on the matter.  I have wrongly categorized IBM
> intentions before (which is why I wrote about the VLP program - I
> thought it was only for ISVs), and maybe this is one of those cases.
>
> Aaron Bartell
> www.MowYourLawn.com/blog
> www.OpenRPGUI.com
> www.SoftwareSavesLives.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > I read that.  So, IBM doesn't want you to get a 50% discount on a 
system,
> then
> > resell it for profit.  Makes sense.  The purpose of the machine is to
> develop
> > approved applications, to help sell IBM platforms.  That what the
> cooperative
> > is
> > for.  Members of a cooperative are the owners of the cooperative, not
> > customers.
> >  A cooperative is not reselling anything to them.
> >
> > -Nathan
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