Nathan,
You make a lot of great points in this post.  Firstly, these VPS plans are 
meant for small personal use.  As you said, you can't expect a .Net 
applications supporting more than a few users to be able to run on the 
lowest setting.  As far as Unlimited plans go that almost EVERY hosting 
provider advertises the devil is in the details.  If you read the TOS the 
use of the unlimited plan is VERY restrictive.  Most all are bound by CPU 
and the hosts "discretion" of the idea that your site is negatively 
impacting the other sites on that server.  I could go on a lot more about 
things I have learned about hosting in the last year (considering I'm a 
shared hosting reseller) but its not really pertinant to the discussion.
The IBM i is a business platform.  Its not a consumer platform.  It never 
has been, and I don't believe it ever will be.  What needs to happen is 
that IBM needs to come up with a pricing structure that will allow its 
software vendors the ability to market hosted solutions running on the IBM 
i to small businesses.  This is much less profitable than the current on 
site licensing model right now. 
What if the small companies the hire out their IBM i administration to 
consultants could have their applications and data hosted as well? Instead 
of worrying about all the software licensing, hardware ordering, having 
the consultants in to do work on the machines, etc, etc... these 
businesses could totally outsoure thier IT.   There is a definite market. 
And this would allow more businesses to buy and "application" not a 
platform.  They want something stable, secure, and affordable.  They don't 
care if its Linux, Microsoft, or IBM i.  And they'd rather not worry about 
it.  If IBM would get on this bus they would see their IBM i machine sales 
climb because vendors would be buying them.  Someone would definitely jump 
into this space and make a heck of a run at it.
Thanks
Bryce Martin
Programmer/Analyst I
570-546-4777
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Here is where I got the $65 number from, which is an entirely
dedicated and virtualized OS hosted on a shared machine ...
I still fail to see the validity of the comparison.  The offer from 
www.hosting.com would be totally unsuitable for hosting an integrated 
development environment.  It's not a development platform.  It's actually 
not 
even suitable as a deployment platform except for a very small number of 
users. 
As far as MS .Net development platforms are concerned, some developers are 
saying they can't stand anything less than a 2.5 Ghz dual-core dedicated 
CPU and 
8GB of RAM.  A 600 Mhz micro partition with 1 GB of RAM would simply not 
work as 
a development platform.  At $65/month you only get the free edition of MS 
SQL 
Server Express, which is constrained to just 1 GB RAM, and 10 GB of DB 
storage. 
What kind of performance could you expect from a micro partition that is 
forced 
to run a resource intensive workload like MS .Net and SQL Server on just 
600 
Mhz, and 1GB of RAM?  My understanding is that the resource requirements 
of 
aspx.net are comparable to those of JEE application servers like WAS.  How 
would 
Java perform under those kinds of constraints?
And if you don't need an entire virtual OS then you can go with
DreamHost at $8.95/month ...
Could you really trust your business to a company like that.  Their 
come-on 
offers are simply false.  Unlimited terabyte storage?  Unlimited terabyte 
bandwidth?  100% uptime guarantee? I won't bother to repeat all the types 
of 
"unlimited" features offered.  It's simply false advertising.  Maybe they 
don't 
meter CPU, bandwidth, or storage but you can bet there are bottlenecks in 
their 
capacities that constrain the actual amount of use.  There's no mention of 
the 
number of HTTP server threads allocated to customers, for example.  It's 
like 
advertising a genie in a bottle; perhaps a data center with enormous 
capacity 
but you can bet there is something constraining its use.  As far as the 
uptime 
guarantee, you can bet that your service will not be up 100% of the time. 
You'll have to go through the ticket report process to get a refund 
measured in 
pennies.  This is not a development platform either, so that comparison is 
not 
valid either.
-Nathan
 
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