One of the big differences between service bureaus and the 'cloud' is
that you essentially moved your processing to a service bureau. You
virtualized your processing someplace else, but it was still atomic.
The 'cloud' concept should enable many different processes to be made
available. You don't know or care where these processes exist - they
just provide information when requested.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Mike Pavlak <mike.p@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
And I was musing at the fact that we are simultaneously repeating history in two directions:

1) Service Bureau's are back as "The Cloud"
2) Client Server is back as mobile applications on small devices!

Centralize...decentralize...centralize...decentralize...Oh hell, why not do both at the same time!!!  After all, we are a lot smarter now, aren't we?

The more things change, the more they stay the same!

Happy New year, all!!!

Mike
Office Phone: (708)233-5880  Cell: (408)679-1011


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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:07 AM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Android Development for the IBM i

Funny, as I read Joe's post and Pete's reply I could not help but think
of the things that were said about AS/400 and OS/400 back in the day.
Same tune, different company.  While I am not a big fan of the way Apple
has rolled out its products from a developers perspective, it is now up
to the corporate customer base to demand the types of APIs that have
built into IBM i  over time.   The GenX and GenY crowd will never demand
them since all they care about is finding a restaurant, texting, and
exposing their lives and secrets to the world at any chance.  Real
business will have to demand them.

That's primarily why I carry an Android based phone, although Google has
some learning to do too.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/2/2012 7:47 PM, Pete Helgren wrote:
Nicely said, Joe.  Choosing where to leverage your strengths is a
survival skill in this business.  I have bet wrong a couple of times but
since 2001 learning Java has had the greatest positive impact on my
ability to stay afloat financially as a solo developer.

Pete Helgren
Value Added Software, Inc
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java


On 1/2/2012 5:06 PM, Joe Pluta wrote:
 But if it comes down to having to learn individual languages and
 platforms to support different platforms, I'll gladly support Android
 and drop support for iPhone.  Android: open platform, open language
 (Java), open API.  iPhone: closed platform, closed hardware, closed
 language, closed API.  Not a tough decision.
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