I have done both and still do both and I think I would agree the web app takes longer then a 5250 app IF you did not adopt a framework that does the stuff 5250/DDS does for you what HTML does not. Like make sure a number is a number and a 2 decimal number does not have 6 numbers after the decimal point. And it does take some extra time to add the extra usability code in that HTML allows you to add. AJAX calls for lookups, dynamic dropdown lists, built from the database. And then later using some tool to find every "screen" that has the word "Bingo" on it so you can change it to "Bongo" because someone in marketing decided a new name was needed for something. And if you consider current staff moving from one to the other. But bring a relatively new college grad into the mix or spend the money for a good framework and staff retraining and the web is just as fast and usually ends up with a happier user. Although to do think there are some apps that still are more efficient and work better as 5250 and web actually slows things down

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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 2:32 PM
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I have been watching the discussion - but I wouldn't agree with the assertion that "We believe that Web development today is too slow because of low productivity, and therefore expensive."

Some might think so, but I don't think everyone does. We have a medium sized development team doing nothing but web development on the IBMi, and I don't consider the team to be slow or to suffer with low productivity. Maybe this is because we are using our own Renaissance Framework that we are all familiar with.

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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Holm
Sent: 08 January 2013 18:45
To: web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Web Enabling Applications - Most Common Programming Tasks For Web Developers

Thorbjorn/Dave/Guillermo,

The discussion is scoped on the following:

What is the quickest way to create IBM i Web Applications?
This discussion is scoped to creating new web applications that utilize the IBM i data and programs. It can include ISV tools, IBM tools, and/or languages and frameworks. Focus should be on the creation of typical IBM i business applications.

We believe that Web development today is too slow because of low productivity, and therefore expensive.

Web development is too HARD for the typical RPG developer who has not had a chance to learn JavaScript, AJAX, PHP/Java/.NET/CGI, HTML, CSS.






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