Re: DB Maintenance Design Patterns

You are incorrect. CNN.com renders on a JavaScript-disabled browser. Some page elements that are pulled using Ajax aren't rendered, but most content is displayed correctly.

As far as accessibility, U.S. Americans with Disabilities Act Section 508 requires government sites to be accessible. My understanding is that a site is allowed to require JavaScript if it includes a <noscript> tag that displays explanatory text. Moreover, the JavaScript widgets must be a11y compliant -- this is the main reason why IBM backed Dojo.

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From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf of Henrik Rützou [hr@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:11 PM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] DB Maintenance Design Patterns

Pete, try to access my homepage without javascript:

http://powerext.com

You will get nothing

Try to access cnn.com - you will get nothing


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM, Pete Helgren <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Why would anyone turn off JavaScript support these days"

Because javascript is one of the most popular attack vectors out there.
CSRF, XSS, drive bys, you name it. Javascript does plenty in the
background that we never see and that is why it is so popular with
hackers. I never enter a new or unknown site with Javascript enabled in
my browser and I take a look at what it is attempting to load before I
allow it to run. I use the noscript plugin and it has saved my rear end
multiple times....

Now *leaving* javascript disabled is another story, but entering a site,
yeah, turning off javascript makes for a funky experience but well
designed sites still deliver content without it and give you a heads up
about what the site won't provide when javascript is off.

Pete Helgren
www.petesworkshop.com
GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java

On 1/28/2013 3:48 PM, Kevin Turner wrote:

Why would anyone turn off JavaScript support these days though - unless

they don't have any interest in using the Internet? Turning it off would
preclude you from using almost every modern website there is.

I guess the point is, why would Nathan need to demonstrate his example

working without JavaScript support? That would be almost as pointless as
demonstrating it without CSS support.

Lack of a mouse, on the other hand, is a valid point. You should be able

to navigate to any clickable element with the keyboard and hit enter to
trigger the event - but that requires JavaScript:)

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