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Oh, and it also uses web sockets to communicate with the nodeJS serverforum?
as well as HTTP.
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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin
Turner
Sent: 12 July 2015 10:03
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: [WEB400] The responsive web site debate
"How would Bootstrap be an improvement?"
I didn't really see an answer to this question, and as I had no real
practical experience of bootstrap I decided to have a go at a
prototype that used it so that I can judge for myself. This topic is
not really anything to do with the IBMi platform, it is more to do
with general web design and tooling - perhaps WEB400 is not the right
6 Framework.
Anyway, one of the things we want to do pretty soon is have a platform
agnostic solution - something that we can run on the IBMi and any
other platform (Unix, Windows) if it is appropriate. So as well as
trying out something that used bootstrap, I also wanted to try
something that used a nodeJS server solution rather than Apache.
While I was at it, I might as well get some practical experience of
Angular as well, so that I can really compare it with our own Renaissance
intuitive
So this is the opposite end of the spectrum. Nathan is rather "anti"
frameworks and libraries as they can be allegedly over scoped. This
little prototype at http://kpturner.co.uk:1337 will therefore fill him
with horror, because I have used Angular, Bootstrap, JQuery and a
NodeJS server
- all glued together with a Framework called Sails (sailsjs.org). I
haven't created any documentation for it at the moment - it is just a
proof of concept really so that I can get to understand what all these
libraries have to offer. However, the source can be viewed on github (
https://github.com/kpturner/sails_events). As an aside, we are now
using Git on our IBMi to manage all our source code, RPGLE etc included.
I haven't reached any hard and fast conclusions yet. I have had plenty
of problems trying to fathom out the best way to do things, mainly due
to my lack of experience in the tools/libraries. I would definitely
consider using bootstrap in Renaissance, but Angular (so far) I find less
than our own offering (no surprise there then). What really is excitingsizes?
(can't believe I am using that word in this context) is the use of
nodeJS as the server platform. JavaScript is by far my favourite
language, so being able to write the server-side code in JavaScript is
liberating. I can debug using node-inspector, and have access to all
those node goodies (node-machines included).
The only fly in the ointment so far, with regard to running it on the
IBMi, is the database access. This prototype uses MySQL. The SailsJS
framework uses an ORM called Waterline that provides an integration
layer to lots of different databases, but DB2 isn't one of them. That
is a hole that I intend to fill one way or another.
Anyway, I thought I would share my experiences as well as making
Nathan feel nauseous :)
Kevin
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From: WEB400 [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nathan
Andelin
Sent: 07 July 2015 20:07
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] 7 lessons from my first responsive web site
Aaron,
Yes, I've already read about Bootstrap's "grid" options and played
with them on one project. But I'd like to hear about some practical
examples of people using them, to better understand what might be
entailed. My understanding, which is admittedly limited, is that
developers may select from "extra small", "small", and "large" CSS
classes for HTML elements. CSS Class names indicate whether they are
targeted for use with various screen sizes. But what is "responsive"
about that? What about GUI elements that automatically adapt to screen
be an improvement?
Kelly's site demonstrated the use of "media queries" which
automatically toggle the visibility of a "menu bar" for larger screens
or an optional "drop-down" menu for smaller screens. How would Bootstrap
records can be corrected.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
*>For those who advocate for Bootstrap, what does it really take to
make it adapt to multiple screen sizes?*
Check this out: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid-options
Aaron Bartell
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