Re: Browser compliance

I'm with Nathan..

if I'm going to use something I'd rather know, at least at a high level,
how it works. If you don't know what can be done with the tools you're
using, you won't know all the best options you have.

It's like saying "I have a driver... he/she/nonbinary <tic> takes me
places" without realizing you can fly in an airplane as well, or ride a
motorcycle!!!! woohoo!


On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Please understand that I'm not necessarily against using frameworks.
However, no framework will insulate you from every CSS and JavaScript issue
that you'll eventually run into. A framework may be fine ... until it's
not.



On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 11:23 AM, Jon Paris <jon.paris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I think you must just enjoy pain Nathan <grin>

There is no way in this day and age that I want to worry about browser
compatibility. that's the job of the framework. I want to spend time
maintaining and enhancing my applications - now worry ing about how MS or
Firfox or Apple or ... have screwed up my browser interface this week.


Jon Paris

www.partner400.com
www.SystemiDeveloper.com

On Apr 3, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I had to look up the definition of "transpiler" in order to get a feel

for

where you were coming from. Don't feel too badly about finding a

function

that isn't supported in IE10. It takes effort to achieve browser
compatibility for both CSS and JavaScript. It's not easy at first, but

it

does get easier as you begin to build out your CSS and JavaScript
framework. After a while you get a feel for what works consistently

across

the major browsers.

Someone is probably thinking, just get one of many popular CSS and
JavaScript frameworks and solve your problem that way. I think that

would

be shallow advice. I think it is better to learn the nuances of CSS and
JavaScript yourself.



On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:43 AM, Justin Taylor <JUSTIN@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

I have about a dozen tiny CGIDEV2 apps. The one I'm looking at now is
about a page and a half (HTML with embedded JS). I got burned by a JS
function that's not supported in IE10, and I'm considering options to
ensure browser compliance. I've been looking at transpilers, but they

all

seem like massive overkill (I need a source project with a directory
structure when I can almost put all the code on a single screen?).

Anyone have any thoughts or advice?

TIA
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