Re: Time change -- DOMINO400

I understand.  I was just thinking that if that is something that should 
be done after bringing all servers down, then it could be added to a 
backup program and be done without manual intervention.

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I have the program, from a past troubleshooting session, but I don't use 
it. It took a little getting used to using OpsNav to clear stuff out, but 
now that that is sinking in, I may try the program or wait until IBM 
releases an officially sanctioned version.
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I meant the cleanup routine.  You know, the part where he clears out the 
semaphores, etc after bringing down the domino servers and prior to 
bringing them back up.

I'd like to see that program.

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Domino starts when TCP starts (the AUTOSTART value on CHGDOMSVR). I may 
turn that off and go back to a startup program. 
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You have that in a program, or do you use iSeries Navigator?

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It generally is after a crash, but sometimes I do see it happen after 
normal ends and starts. I always clear the temp stuff when I end the 
servers.

Chris Whisonant
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domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
11/02/2004 01:02:33 PM:

> I thought the problem with the leftover shared memory, etc was only 
after 
> the server ends abnormally, such ending them *IMMED or after a crash. I 
am 
> having trouble starting both servers at the same time (one of which is 
> Samtime) on my lightweight i5 520 #8950 and need to look into staggering 






> them. But I never do the cleanup thing unless there is a crash.
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> 
> The problem with taking the server down and bringing it up after the 
> change is that if you end multiple "partitions" automatically and bring 
> them back up, we generally will get memory errors unless we use iSeries 
> Navigator to clear out all the shared memory. However, according to 
Walter 
> 
> (I believe) there are plans to create an i5/OS command that will clear 
all 
> 
> of the shared mem, semaphores, and kernel message queues. When that 
> command is available I would be more willing to end and restart the 
> servers through a batch process.
> 
> Chris Whisonant
> Comporium
> Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
> IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions V5R2
> IBM Certified Associate System Administrator - Lotus Notes and Domino 6
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> domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 
> 11/02/2004 10:20:33 AM:
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> > Rob, see all the previous posts about how Domino goes haywire and 
drags 
> > down the entire iSeries if you change the time while it is running.
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> > Maybe you need to take this over to midrange-l and see what Al Barsa 
or 
> > the rest of the group says.
> > 
> > Why would you NOT want it to automatically adjust?
> > 
> > Rob Berendt
> > -- 
> > Group Dekko Services, LLC
> > Dept 01.073
> > PO Box 2000
> > Dock 108
> > 6928N 400E
> > Kendallville, IN 46755
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> > I believe if the value of QTIMZON is blank then it, in effect, is
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> > I was looking through the system values on our i5 system, but I 
couldn't
> > find where to disable the feature. If I recall, there is a data area 
> that
> > controls it and possibly you may possibly be able to disable it. 
> However,
> > nothing I'm finding in the Info. Center states anything about being 
able
> > to disable it.
> > 
> > Chris Whisonant
> > Comporium
> > Senior Mid-Range Systems Administrator
> > IBM eServer Certified Systems Expert - iSeries Technical Solutions 
V5R2
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> > domino400-bounces+chris.whisonant=comporium.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on
> > 11/01/2004 09:36:51 PM:
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> > > I skipped over V5R2, but I don't recall any auto time change 
mechanism
> > in
> > > V5R1. Out of all the posts, I'm still not sure how to make the i5 OS 






> not
> > 
> > 
> > > change the time automatically!
> > > I am well aware of how bad Domino get's screwed up. I was going to 
try
> > the
> > > new time-change feature in OpsNav, but i5 OS beat me too it and 
> changed
> > > the time. Not a blip in the logs either.
> > > I don't think NNTP will change the time enough for a Daylight 
savings
> > time
> > > change, but it hasn't been working for me anyway. I'll check the 
logs
> > out
> > > later, though.
> > >
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> > > That's been the case prior to V5R3, hasn't it?  I'm still on V5R2 
and 
> I
> > > thought we ran into it on V5R1.  Anyway, since I don't have Domino
> > running
> > >
> > > 24/7, my "solution" was to create a little CL app that shuts down 
> Domino
> > 
> > 
> > > prior to the automatic time change and restarts it afterward.  I 
made
> > one
> > > for the spring change and one for the fall change.
> > >
> > > Patrick
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> > > Anyone else have V5R3 automatically change time for daylight savings 






> and
> > 
> > 
> > > throw their Domino servers for a loop?  I learned a long time ago 
not 
> to
> > 
> > 
> > > change the time (by much) while Domino was running. Sunday I log on 
to
> > set
> > >
> > > the time and discover that OS/400 must have set itself, and my 
Domino
> > was
> > > dragging, bogging down the whole iSeries.
> > > Does anyone know where this is controlled?
> > >
> > > Tom
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