RE: small i5 recommendations -- MIDRANGE-L

Jim,

Win2k would not be problem.  I was running it with v5r4 of client access
till recently.

There's lots of shops running Win2k instead of XP.

If they don't have a spare PC around, consider buying a new one.  I'd be
willing to bet that you can get something for close to the price of the
thin console.

If you're looking to give a modern impression, nothing say modern like
being able to tie in from home.

Consider the impression an ultra small form factor PC would make as a
console.  Here's a complete PC:
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=925279

Here's a bare bones, you'd have to add CPU, RAM, & HD:
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1008573

HTH,


Charles Wilt
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iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer
Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces+cwilt=meaa.mea.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces+cwilt=meaa.mea.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Jim Franz
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:42 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: small i5 recommendations

For this customer, there currently is no twinax in last 6 years,
and I would be shot if suggesting to bring some back (actually it
would confirm to this customer the "perception" the */i/* is "old".
As odd as it sounds, a new thin client does not give the same 
perception.
Also no spare pc's, no spare anything. Also no net tech. 
Users are mostly
in the elderly range and it's a place people, even families work for 
life....
Not tech or pc savvy. This is why they want to keep their 
rpgii application!
Change is NOT good (to them), but will gently push as many 
new features
and ideas as possible.
Existing pc's are Win2k and I do have a fear of problems with 
such an old 
Win version.
I'm basically setting this up and turning over to another 
developer, so 
reviewing
options with him.
jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: small i5 recommendations

If your only consideration is acquisition cost then I have an old
5291-002 for sale freekin cheap. Kinda dirty.....

I look at value (which incidentally is why i use */i/*

Yes a windoze machine may cost a few bucks but it's likely

that you have

an old machine around that nobody really wants any longer

that is plenty

for this task. You may also have a KVM in the DC to connect

it to so no

keyboard, rodent, or display need be purchased either. The software
required is provided with i5/OS.

When you consider that every single time you need to to

dedicated system

stuff with my old 5291-002 you need to be in front of it

while with the

Ops Console solution you may save yourself several trips to

the office

over it's life. Therefore I maintain that the ops console

solution is

long term cheaper than el dumbo.   Very much like your */i/* is long
term be cheaper than Windoze servers.

- Larry

Raul A. Jager W. wrote:

I disagree Larry, it is cheaper to use an old tube or to buy  thin
client rather than buy a windows computer for the console.

Larry Bolhuis wrote:

Slap Paul for suggesting a Twinax card!

Small i5 = LAN Console. Or you could do LAN console. Or

if you prefer,

LAN console. There is also LAN console. Or in a pinch, I'd try LAN
console.  Nothing to buy nothing to install on the System i.  The
required software comes with the machine and works find

on any Win2K or

WinXP or Win2003 server; OK It's not supported on Server

but it works

fine.

Thin console is cool if you don't care about getting to

the console

remotely.

- Larry

pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

I'd go with the thin console. If it doesn't work out as

expected, slap

in
a twinax card

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