RE: Casino switches to AIX

[john e <jacobus1968@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't buy it.

i don't think people think it's modern just because we keep mentioning it has a new name. Really, most people are smarter than that. Maybe it even backfires, because everybody simply knows it is (or was) an AS/400, now named "i".

Internals of Windows Vista still mention "NT4" everywhere.

> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Casino switches to AIX
> From: Tommy.Holden@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:06:37 -0600
>
> yet another telling story to the Java programmers that access data on the 
> system  the jt400 library still uses as400.(whatever) classes, etc.  it's 
> hard to tell them it's not an as400 when all they interact with is 
> "as400.(whatever)"  i agree Trevor that we should "market"/advocate this 
> as "IBM i on Power systems" but IBM is making it hard to do when the folks 
> that aren't versed in how the OS has evolved can't see any definitive 
> difference from their interactions with the system.  if nothing else IBM 
> could introduce different naming for these and leave those as deprecated 
> classes, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> Tommy Holden
>
>
>
> From:
> "Jones, John (US)" <John.Jones@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
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> Date:
> 11/18/2008 06:53 AM
> Subject:
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>
> IBM apparently doesn't think i is particularly different from i5/OS.  In 
> fact, the V6R1 Information Center still calls it i5/OS.  As of this month 
> IBM still has not even bothered to search/replace i5/OS with i (see the 
> Memo to Users: 
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/systems/scope/i5os/topic/rzaq9/rzaq9.pdf
> ).
>
> FTM, Info Center still calls the hardware System i when they should be 
> using Power Systems.  According to the i home page at 
> http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/i/, "Power Systems including AS/400, 
> iSeries, and System i", Power Systems is the appropriate name for all 
> server hardware running i, and by inference, i5/OS and OS/400.
>
> It's hard to believe the products are new/different when the vendor 
> refuses to use the right names on a consistent basis.
>
> And if I were exploring the i OS and Power Systems hardware for the first 
> time, I would be horribly confused.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Klement
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 5:11 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Casino switches to AIX
>
> Trevor,
>
> > If people do think that IBM simply changed the name, then we have little
> > hope for the platform.
>
> I was discussing what the current perception is, and that *is* what
> people think.  When you talk to people at conferences, user groups,
> forums, etc, do you find that they think IBM changed the technology and
> then changed the name to match?   Or do you find that they consider
> "System i the new name for iSeries.  and iSeries the new name for AS/400"?
>
> I think it would be wonderful if everyone thought that IBM i was
> technologically miles ahead of i5/OS, which in turn was miles ahead of
> OS/400.  But that's not a reality today.  The bulk of the community
> considers them new names for the same thing.
>
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