RE: Installing WebSphere Application Server Express V8.0 on an iSeries at version 6.1.1

Apparently with Version 8, you can't use the Installation Manager from a PC... You are required to install Installation Manager on the iSeries and use the QSHELL command line interface in order to install WAS...

Is that a step backwards or what ?

Reply from: Kenneth E Graap

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Oberholtzer
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:38 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Installing WebSphere Application Server Express V8.0 on an iSeries at version 6.1.1

That's true, and has been true for WAS for some time. It's best if you have a PC on the same switch/network as the IBM i box. You'll start the installation manager on the PC and follow the prompts. It's easy once you get to that point. Call it about 45 minutes assuming a 100Mb network. A bit faster for 1Gb.

I also have dumped the two (WAS 7 anyway) disk images into the IFS and set up a share and run it from there. Adds about 30% to the install time.

Remember to apply the PTF group after the installation. If that's all you install no IPL should be needed. There IS a special handling PTF.
You have to go into the IFS using QSH and run the update script. You'll find the exact location and name of the script in the job log of the job that applies the PTFs. That job will not look like it is doing anything but trust me it is. If you check out active jobs you'll see many jobs forked from that one QSH session. Wait for it to finish. About another
40 minutes usually.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/31/2012 5:26 PM, Graap, Kenneth wrote:

I was told that the entire installation of this program product is
done from "Installation Manager". RSTLICPGM isn't used for WAS V80

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Subject: Re: Installing WebSphere Application Server Express V8.0 on
an iSeries at version 6.1.1

On 31-Jan-2012 13:02 , Graap, Kenneth wrote:

Has anyone actually been able to figure out how to install the
most current version of WAS Express 8.0 on their iSeries 6.1.1 system?

Apparently it isn't installed through the RSTLICPGM process anymore.
You have to download an "Installation Manager" application to the
iSeries, and use it in conjunction with some type of "repository"
and all of this is done from the command line (QSHELL is guess...)

I start down through the installation documentation I was able to
find and end up nested 8 deep in links and all I see is
information for UNIX and Windows installs ....

I'm going crazy here.

Can anyone point me to a list of steps that need to be performed
to install WAS on an iSeries that isn't cluttered with how to
install it on EVERYTHING else?

<<SNIP>>

AFaIK there is still a requirement to RSTLICPGM to get a pre-requisite product [¿ 5733-W80 (WE2) WebSphere Application Server - Express 8.0 ?] installed, but then the actual [common experience] installation is via a scripted [likely via the QSH] or a GUI install procedure. I did not read to verify that, but I think the following documentation should assist to clarify:

Express (IBM i), Version 8.0 -> Installing your application serving
environment -> IBM i_i Installing and configuring your application
serving environment i_
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v8r0/topic/com.ibm.we
bsphere.installation.express.iseries.doc/info/iseriesexp/ae/welcome_in
stalling.html
"
This section describes how to establish application-serving capability in new and existing environments. The information includes planning, preparing for, completing, and maintaining product installations.
"

Navigation within the_Contents_ [shown in a frame on the left of the page] appears to show a variety of activity documentation which all seem to be very specific to IBM i:

_i Task overview: Installing on IBM i i_
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v8r0/topic/com.ibm.we
bsphere.installation.express.iseries.doc/info/iseriesexp/ae/tins_is_in
st.html

_i Preparing the operating system for installation on IBM i i_
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v8r0/topic/com.ibm.we
bsphere.installation.express.iseries.doc/info/iseriesexp/ae/tins_is_pr
ep.html

_i Installing and uninstalling the product on IBM i operating systems
i_
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v8r0/topic/com.ibm.we
bsphere.installation.express.iseries.doc/info/iseriesexp/ae/tins_insta
llation_is.html
"
IBM® Installation Manager is a common installer for many IBM software products that you use to install or uninstall this version of WebSphere® Application Server.

_Before you begin_

_New feature_ : WebSphere Application Server Version 8.0 is the first full version to be installed by Installation Manager rather than by the programs that are used to install, update, and uninstall previous versions. Installation Manager is a single installation program that can use remote or local software repositories to install, modify, or update new WebSphere Application Server products. It determines available packages-including products, fix packs, interim fixes, and so on-checks prerequisites and interdependencies, and installs the selected packages.
You also use Installation Manager to uninstall the packages that it installed.

_Restrictions_ :

* Do not use the same response files that are used with WebSphere Application Server Version 7.0 or earlier to install or uninstall Version 8.0 and later; use response files that are based on Installation Manager to install, update, or uninstall Version 8.0 and later.
* The Installation Manager GUI is not available on IBM i; all interaction with Installation Manager on IBM i is done through the command line or response files.

Overview of IBM Installation Manager: IBM Installation Manager is a general-purpose software installation and update tool that runs on a range of computer systems. Installation Manager can be invoked through a command-line interface. You can also create response files in XML and use them to direct the performance of Installation Manager tasks in silent mode.
"

Regards, Chuck
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