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Ok, we'll see how the PTFs play out. I really appreciate all of your
input.
Thanks,
Kurt
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:39 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Core processor utilization Was: Cumulative PTF w/o
Technology Refresh
That's the way I read it too.
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects
On 5/16/2013 9:05 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hey, Jim O.,9117-
Do this mean what I think it means?
ENTITLED PROCESSING CAPACITY: 2.00.
Basically Kurt should have 2?
Rob Berendt
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"Anderson, Kurt" <KAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Midrange Systems
Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 05/16/2013
09:58 AM Subject: RE: Core processor utilization Was: Cumulative PTF
w/o Technology Refresh Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx I
ran it in QCmd, pressed F10 and did not see additional information.
SYSTEM INFO -> SYSTEM SERIAL NUMBER: 10-A67CP . SYSTEM TYPE-MODEL:call qlzarcapi
8202-
E4B. PROCESSOR FEATURE CODE: 8352. PROCESSOR GROUP: P10. MAX
PHYSICAL
PROCS IN SYSTEM: 8. CONFIGURABLE PROCS IN SYSTEM: 8.
PARTITION INFO -> NETWORK NAME: 10A67CP . PARTITION NAME: 10-A67CP.
PARTITION ID: 1. SHARING TYPE: DEDICATED. MINIMUM PROCESSING UNITS:
1.00. DESIRED PROCESSING UNITS: 8.00. MAXIMUM PROCESSING CAPACITY:
8.00. ENTITLED PROCESSING CAPACITY: 2.00.
-Kurt
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Subject: Re: Core processor utilization Was: Cumulative PTF w/o
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Worked great! The catch was I had to look at the whole joblog and
not just the last message on the screen.
call qlzarcapi
SYSTEM INFO -> SYSTEM SERIAL NUMBER: 10-3BDDD . SYSTEM TYPE-MODEL:
MMA. PROCESSOR FEATURE CODE: 7380. PROCESSOR GROUP: P30. MAX PHYSICALmidrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
PROCS IN SYSTEM: 8. CONFIGURABLE PROCS IN SYSTEM: 8.
PARTITION INFO -> NETWORK NAME: GDISYS . PARTITION NAME: GDISYS.
PARTITION ID: 3. SHARING TYPE: SHARED. SHARING MODE: UNCAPPED. MIN
PROCESSING CAPACITY: 0.10. DESIRED PROCESSING UNITS: 1.25. MAX
PROCESSING CAPACITY: 7.00. ENTITLED PROCESSING CAPACITY: 1.25. MIN
VIRTUAL PROCESSORS: 1. DESIRED VIRTUAL PROCESSORS: 3. MAX VIRTUAL
PROCESSORS: 8. ONLINE VIRTUAL PROCESSORS: 3 PROCESSOR POOL INFO
-> NUMBER OF VIRTUAL PROCESSOR POOLS CONFIGURED: 1.
CURRENT PROCESSOR POOL ID: 0. MAXIMUM PROCESSING UNITS FOR PROCESSOR
POOL 0: 7.
Kurt should try this.
Rob Berendt
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From: Jack Kingsley<iseriesflorida@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/15/2013 05:09 PM
Subject: Re: Core processor utilization Was: Cumulative PTF w/o
Technology Refresh
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Rob, this isn't what your looking for, call qlzarcapi
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:49 PM,<rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Trying to tie the information available on HMC to that available
from other limited resources. For example, if I display this on
my HMC
Processing Units
Minimum: 0.10
Sharing mode: Uncapped
Assigned: 1.25
Weight: 128
Maximum: 7.00
Shared processor pool: DefaultPool (0)
Virtual Processors
Minimum: 1.0
Assigned: 3.0
Maximum: 8.0
What would match this on 5250 or iNav?
I don't see a match using
wrkhdwrsc *prc
wrksysact
wrksyssts
And, short of display/alter/debug, nothing sticks out in SST.
Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul"<PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/15/2013 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh
Sent by:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Active jobs: 1222, even with 10 batch jobs running at one, 2nd core
never used.
Spikes are hitting .8, never goes over 1.0
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mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Ofrob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:22 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh
You ought to try running more than one job at a time. The fact
that one or more is single threaded doesn't matter. One could
be running on one core and the second on the other.
Rob Berendt
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ofto: 2505 Dekko Drive
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul"<PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 05/15/2013 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh
Sent by:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I have 2 cores on my production LPAR, 2nd core is never used,
majority
oneAS/400 software is single threaded, biggest reason why the core
is not used.
Confirmed this with MPG performance processor used graph.
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From:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [
mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Ofrob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:08 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh
Jim hit the biggest one
Was the LPAR profile changed to use the extra processor?
I can go to my HMC and activate another core by entering the key
in our Capacity Upgrade on Demand. However, if I don't then
allocate that to
it.
or more lpars it's a waste of money.
Jim, I too initially thought he didn't want to apply the TR. I
reread
He does want to apply the TR. He was just under the impression
that it wasn't included on the cume. It is, IBM's just behind on
their documentation. I've submitted web feed back that they get
the cover letter for TR6 updated to show the PTF's are now on a cume.
Rob Berendt
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From: Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion<
useDate: 05/15/2013 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Cumulative PTF w/o Technology Refresh
Sent by:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Kurt,
I agree with your partners request, I would make the same one.
That said, if you have seen no improvement, I suspect a different
problem than PTFs. Is this an LPAR box? Was the LPAR profile
changed to use the extra processor? Is there a high limit on the
processor that is less than (I think two based on your
description) the number of processors you had before adding one?
Yes, you can apply the cumulative and then go back and apply the
group for the TR later; But I highly suggest that in addition to
the Cumulative you apply the following list of groups as well:
PTF Group Text
SF99710 CUMULATIVE PTF PACKAGE C3037710
SF99709 GROUP HIPER
SF99708 GROUP SECURITY
SF99705 HARDWARE AND RELATED PTFS
SF99701 DB2 FOR IBM I
SF99627 7.1 ELECTRONIC SERVICES GROUP PTF
SF99572 JAVA
SF99368 IBM HTTP SERVER FOR I
SF99367 TCP/IP PTF
SF99366 PRINT PTFS
SF99362 BACKUP RECOVERY SOLUTIONS (even if you don't
Group you mightBRMS this is where all the save/restore PTFs are)
SF99145 PERFORMANCE TOOLS (if you have them)
The TR is SF99707 TECHNOLOGY REFRESH
The HIPER, and Hardware ones are the ones I would find most
important in this case, however if your taking the time to apply any
--applyjust as well get the entire batch. I'm not sure why you would not
want the TR group as well, unless there is something in the cover
letter that leads you to believe there is going to be a problem.
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects
On 5/15/2013 9:49 AM, Anderson, Kurt wrote:
> So we've been really bad about PTFs. Our IBM BP is asking
that we
it.
PTFs because after getting an additional core activated (from 1 to
2) we've noticed 0 improvement on the system.
> So we finally ordered a cumulative PTF and we're looking at
applying
http://www-912.ibm.com/systems/electronic/support/s_dir/sline003.nsf/P
But then I thought, "What about technology refreshes?" It
doesn't appear that the cume comes with a TR on it. Cume:
C3037710
>
SP%20Number%20View/SF98035
>applying a Technology Refresh?
> Are we safe to apply the Cume w/o a TR and then later
investigate
>
> Thanks,
> Kurt Anderson
> Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> CustomCall Data Systems, a division of Enghouse Systems Ltd
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