RE: [WEB400] More about struts

["David Morris" <David.Morris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe,

You are saying "STOP USING STRUTS" but I think you 
are misinterpreting Craig McClanahan. Did you ask 
him about if this is his position before sending it to this 
list?

You don't seem to understand that Struts is NOT a tag 
library. Many use Struts with alternative view support. 
You can read the Struts road map here: 

HTTP://jakarta.apache.org/struts/status.html 

I believe this is relevant:

"We anticipate that Struts 2.x will rely on JSTL and the 
JavaServer Faces API as supporting technologies. However, 
the focus of the Struts framework will remain on the Controller 
aspect of a Model 2/MVC architecture. The core framework will 
continue to be both Model and View independent."

That statement summarizes what I have been trying to tell 
you about Struts. It is the architecture that provides value, 
not the view implementation. The Struts tag library, or any 
tag library are not a core value of Struts. However, Struts 
works well with tags, which allow some level of encapsulation 
above that offered by raw scriptlets.

David Morris


>>> joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/10/2003 12:31:44 AM >>>
> From: Joe Pluta
> 
> But it just makes me a little nutty that you're pushing a
> technology that even the users of the technology say is going away.

And in case you're thinking I'm misreading this, here's what the
creator
of Struts had to say BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2002:

"For applications now (or about to be) under development that have
relatively short term schedules (i.e. the next few months), you should
probably stick with the existing HTML library. 

For applications with a longer lead time, seriously consider waiting
for
the ability to use JSF components instead of the Struts HTML tag
library. Doing this will let you leverage not only the standard HTML
components that come with JSF out of the box, but also the rich
libraries of JSF components likely to be created by third parties in
the
future (including Struts developers). 

For Struts after 1.1 is released, the developers haven't yet had
formal
conversations (which will happen on STRUTS-DEV) about what a future
Struts will look like. However, I'm going to continue to advocate a
long
term migration to using standards like JSF and JSTL when they are
available, and de-emphasize the further development of the Struts
proprietary tag libraries."

- Craig McClanahan

(http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/proposals/struts-faces.html)


So, the creator of Struts says: STOP USING STRUTS.

'nuff said.

Joe