Re: native PHP in V5R4??? -- WEB400

Dave,

If your CIO is willing to pitch a system that is giving users both the
functionality and speed that they want to go with something else, then
your CEO should be looking for a new CIO.

Mike E.

On 2/24/06, Dave Odom <Dave.Odom@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You are one of the very few that have responded to this that GET IT and
> has done something to improve the image of the platform!!   And you did
> it with the Presentation Layer which is the "wiz bang/blinking lights"
> that most users and mangers see.  Kudos to you!!    However, the back
> end technology IS looked at by lots of CIOs and the like and what they
> see and hear is the iSeries is not even considered by the rest of the IT
> world to be a real RDBMS and it still uses the obscure (to them) RPG
> language.   So, perception is problem Presentation and Data Base Layers.
>   I grant you the Presentation layer is a great place to start.
>
> Now if I can just get others to "see the light", follow suit and turn
> around the perception.   But until that happens the platform's
> competitive status is in jeopardy.
>
> Take care,
>
> Dave
>
> >>> meovino@xxxxxxxxx 2/24/2006 12:21:57 >>>
> On 2/23/06, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The truth is that most anything you can do in SQL outside of a few
> > vendor-specific extensions you can do on the iSeries.  And then, when
> you
> > need extra performance, you can go to native I/O.  In fact, RPG is
> the only
> > language I know of that allows you to access your database both ways,
> which
> > in my mind makes it leading edge!
>
> If we're worried about perception, why are we talking about back-end
> technologies?  The folks who are managing by in-flight magazine and
> making IT decisions are doing so because they believe that 5250 is
> dated technology (and I'm not going to debate the validity of this
> belief as I believe there are situations for both 5250 and GUI [and I
> am my company's webmaster]).
>
> We are rewriting and enhancing a 5250 application (very little data
> entry, mostly inquiry, a great candidate for a GUI) using JSP/Java
> (running on WebSphere on iSeries) dealing with the iSeries back end.
> We have a mix of record level access and SQL, RPG program calls, and
> some MQT's mixed in for good measure.  Our users are going NUTS over
> this.  They are all telling us that they "did not know that the AS/400
> could do this."  It's been able to do this for years; it's the IT
> staff that hasn't been able to do this (not enough web guys to put on
> an internal project until now).  The users ASSUME the platform is old
> and incapable because we are not producing the kinds of apps they
> want.
>
> We have all the tools we need to provide world-class GUI applications.
>  If we can provide applications that meet or exceed user expectations
> (both presentation and performance), we don't need to worry about some
> knucklehead saying that we need to migrate to UNIX/Oracle or
> Windows/SQL Server or whatever.
>
> Mike E.
>
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