Re: HTML and PDF Reports

["Peter Dow (ML)" <maillist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Joe,

Why not show a sample of EGL-generated code?  RPG, Java, etc.  Make it a 
little less theoretical...

More of a showstopper for me is the question "how much does it cost?"

*Peter Dow* /
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 793-9050
pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> /

Joe Pluta wrote:
> David Gibbs wrote:
>   
> > Joe Pluta wrote:
> >   
> >     
> > > The primary complaint against EGL from the RPG-CGI advocates is that 
> > > it's not RPG.  I find this confusing, because with EGL, you don't have 
> > > to learn HTML, JavaScript or CSS, but with RPG-CGI you have to learn all 
> > > of those.  
> > >     
> > >       
> > Of course without a good understanding of the generated code, trying to 
> > fix problems in the code is going to be a nightmare.
> >   
> >     
> This is an argument you're going to have to decide for yourself.  The 
> program generates both Java code and JSF, so it's eminently debuggable.  
> There's also an EGL-level debugger.  See, this is opinion argument.  
> You're not basing this on using the tool, just on... what?  Your 
> experience with other tools?
>
>   
> > In my experience (granted, somewhat limited to a single vendor's 
> > product, but I have seen the output from other vendors tools), the code 
> > that is generated is horrendous and next to impossible to debug.
> >   
> >     
> I guess you'd have to actually try to use the code.  Since I use EGL 
> primarily to move data from RPG to the web page, there's very little to 
> debug.
>
>   
> > Personally, I think code generators of any kind are a pox on the 
> > industry.  Using a code generator might be OK for a prototype, but to 
> > create usable, maintainable, adaptable, applications you need to develop 
> > the code by hand ... or at least use a tool that emits the end result 
> > code so you have full code comprehension.
> >
> > Obviously JMHO.
> >   
> >     
> EGL emits JSF and Java and JavaScript.  It's ugly, sure, but it's 
> debuggable.  If you haven't actually used EGL, then your arguments are 
> theoretical.
>
> Joe
>