Re: EGL, Java and PHP

[TAllen@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Yes, it is.  The acronym stand for REpresentational State Transfer.

Thanks,
Todd Allen
EDPS
Electronic Data Processing Services
tallen@xxxxxxxxxxxx



                                                                           
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I've never worked with Web services and I'm curious...is REST is an
alternative to SOAP?

Kelly

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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WEB400] EGL, Java and PHP

> I still believe the WSDL-contract is A Really Good thing even if
everything
else is a mess.

Agreed.  The concept of full technical documentation of a web service is a
good thing.  Now if we could just get rid of SOAP :-)

Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com
http://mowyourlawn.com/blog/


On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen
<ravn@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Aaron Bartell skrev:
> > > How much work would it be for example to create a scalable, standards
> > compliant web service which serves images, pdfs and excel sheets
> dynamically
> > from contents in a database table?
> >
> > Depends on who is on the other end of the web service.  If it is .NET
> then
> > any given upgrade it stands the potential to break.  Microsoft is STILL
> > adopting web service standards before the rest of the world agrees on
> them
> > which causes issues for even Java programs wanting to make standardized
> > communication with them.
> Can we agree that a proper implementation of web services is a
> non-trivial matter? :)
>
> I'd be perfectly happy with saying a web site if that is better :D
>
> > Whether something is "standard" is quite a relative term I have found.
>  Is
> > it standard according to the WS-* profiles?, standard according to the
> W3C?,
> > standard according to a JCP/JSR?, standard according to Microsoft?  Web
> > services are soooooo over architected it is painful to watch them
> > (Microsoft) "progress to make things easier".  Did you catch that Sun
has
> > semi-formally made a move away from SOAP for many web services?
> > http://www.sdtimes.com/link/32959
>
> I am aware of the REST concept as being something where you separate the
> data from the action (which is part of the URL instead) as opposed to
> SOAP where you basically do remote procedure calls according to the
> WSDL-contract.  But having
>
> I still believe the WSDL-contract is A Really Good thing even if
> everything else is a mess.
>
> All this is still somebody trying to get Remote Procedure Calls right.
> Eventually it will happen :)
>
> --
>  Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen  "...plus... Tubular Bells!"





 
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