Re: DB Maintenance Design Patterns

["Briggs, Trevor (TBriggs2)" <TBriggs2@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

That was Java - not Javascript.

Trevor Briggs
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Lincare, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Charles Wilt
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 4:46 PM
To: Web Enabling the IBM i (AS/400 and iSeries)
Subject: Re: [WEB400] DB Maintenance Design Patterns

Kevin,

Do you follow the news at all?

Just a couple of weeks ago there was a bunch of stuff about a Java zero
day
flaw and everybody and his brother discussed how to turn off java
script.

I'm with Pete, I use noscript to disable Java script for any new site a
browse to.

Charles




On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Kevin Turner
<kevin.turner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> 15 years ago I would have agreed with you Pete.
>
> Your average Joe using the Internet these days wouldn't even know what
> JavaScript was let alone why or how to disable it.
>
> Are you seriously saying you do a full analysis of the JavaScript
> functionality on a new website before allowing it?  Wow! You either
need a
> medal, or psychiatric help :)
>
> How do you perform this analysis when using your mobile device(s), or
do
> you steer clear of those?
>
>
>
> On 28 Jan 2013, at 22:08, "Pete Helgren" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > "Why would anyone turn off JavaScript support these days"
> >
> > Because javascript is one of the most popular attack vectors out
there.
> > CSRF, XSS, drive bys, you name it.  Javascript does plenty in the
> > background that we never see and that is why it is so popular with
> > hackers.  I never enter a new or unknown site with Javascript
enabled in
> > my browser and I take a look at what it is attempting to load before
I
> > allow it to run.  I use the noscript plugin and it has saved my rear
end
> > multiple times....
> >
> > Now *leaving* javascript disabled is another story, but entering a
site,
> > yeah, turning off javascript makes for a funky experience but well
> > designed sites still deliver content without it and give you a heads
up
> > about what the site won't provide when javascript is off.
> >
> > Pete Helgren
> > www.petesworkshop.com
> > GIAC Secure Software Programmer-Java
> >
> > On 1/28/2013 3:48 PM, Kevin Turner wrote:
> > > Why would anyone turn off JavaScript support these days though -
unless
> they don't have any interest in using the Internet?  Turning it off
would
> preclude you from using almost every modern website there is.
> > > I guess the point is, why would Nathan need to demonstrate his
example
> working without JavaScript support?  That would be almost as pointless
as
> demonstrating it without CSS support.
> > > Lack of a mouse, on the other hand, is a valid point. You should be
> able to navigate to any clickable element with the keyboard and hit
enter
> to trigger the event - but that requires JavaScript:)
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