Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

[Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Or maybe you could post the same sentiment to EVERYone who posts against
your personal requirements of this forum? That might be a little more
fair? Otherwise, you were just posting another personal feeling?

On 9/27/11 1:34 PM, "Dennis" <iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> You're right; I sholuld have let David enforce the rules of the forum.
> ++
> Dennis
> ++
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy tablet phone.  Please excuse my brevity.
> For any grammatic/spelling errors, there is no excuse.
> ++
>
>
> "Trevor Perry" <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Then why did you post this?
> >
> > On 9/27/11 12:23 PM, "Dennis" <iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > This is neiher the place nor the forum for personal feelings to be
> > > expressed about individuals.  Please refrain from such petty
> > expression
> > > in these public forums.
> > > ++
> > > Dennis
> > > ++
> > > "Natives who beat drums to drive off evil spirits are objects of
> > scorn
> > > to smart Americans who blow horns to break up traffic jams."
> > >     -- Mary Ellen Kelly
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my Galaxy tablet phone.  Please excuse my brevity.
> > > For any grammatic/spelling errors, there is no excuse.
> > > ++
> > >
> > >
> > > "Trevor Perry" <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > DRsquare,
> > > >
> > > > You are like the grumpy old grandfather who doesn't get out much. He
> > > > sees
> > > > the world in his own neighborhood, and has to tell the kids that is
> > how
> > > > the entire world really is. And a smiley face does not make it right.
> > > > Maybe to him that is the whole world, but outside in the real world,
> > > > the
> > > > use of the new IBM branding is a little more common than your
> > backyard.
> > > > Mainly because there are people out here who are up to date, and not
> > > > living in some fabulous past. I.T. is a little faster moving than
> > > > AS/400
> > > > pundits wished, but it has moved far beyond that glorious platform.
> > > >
> > > > The point is not the name, but the concept. Windows can still run
> > DOS,
> > > > but
> > > > you don't call it DOS. AS/400 could run S/34, S/36 but you never
> > called
> > > > it
> > > > by those names. IBM i on Power is what you buy from IBM, and while it
> > > > can
> > > > run OS/400 applications, it just is not an AS/400. Besides, you
> > cannot
> > > > run
> > > > Watson on an AS/400, and what a powerful marketing tool that is for
> > our
> > > > platform - and yes, IBM does market this platform. Maybe they stopped
> > > > marketing the AS/400 when they stopped selling the AS/400.
> > > >
> > > > For your benefit, IBM built a new platform called Power Systems. They
> > > > sell
> > > > the best business hardware platform on the planet - Power Systems. It
> > > > runs
> > > > IBM i. Calling it by another name - an old name or your own
> > particular
> > > > made-up brand, is simply incorrect and pandering to the naysayers and
> > > > competitors who call you old and out of date.
> > > >
> > > > Certainly, there are people running on AS/400 servers with OS/400.
> > > > There
> > > > are iSeries customers running OS/400 and IBM i. There are System i
> > > > customers running i5/OS and IBM i. And yes, they often struggle with
> > > > the
> > > > "name". However, the next box they will upgrade to will be a Power
> > > > Systems
> > > > server, running IBM i. If you tell them they have to keep using the
> > > > same
> > > > "400", they may be happy for a short time to avoid having to face
> > > > change,
> > > > but in the fast paced world of I.T. you would be best served to offer
> > > > them
> > > > something modern.
> > > >
> > > > Coming to you from the real world.
> > > > Trevor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 9/27/11 9:56 AM, "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > CLEARLY someone it out of touch with what's REALLY going on in
> > > > industry
> > > > > and
> > > > > what the REAL WORLD is calling this box...  Thanks to IBM's TOTALLY
> > > > INEPT
> > > > > attempts at marketing, this box is known IN INDUSTRY by several
> > names.
> > > > If
> > > > > someone has a problem with that, I suggest they get back on their
> > > > > meds...or
> > > > > complain at IBM for their TOTALLY INEPT marketing practices and
> > > > product
> > > > > naming conventions.
> > > > >
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:08 AM
> > > > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > > > Subject: Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, I was going by the subject line.  I thought that was created
> > by
> > > > > the 
> > > > > OP:
> > > > > Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob Berendt
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Group Dekko
> > > > > Dept 1600
> > > > > Mail to:  2505 Dekko Drive
> > > > >          Garrett, IN 46738
> > > > > Ship to:  Dock 108
> > > > >          6928N 400E
> > > > >          Kendallville, IN 46755
> > > > > http://www.dekko.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From:   Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Date:   09/26/2011 10:52 AM
> > > > > Subject:        Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
> > > > > Sent by:        midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob,
> > > > >
> > > > > The OP did not ask. The message to which I replied offered it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Trevor
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/26/11 10:32 AM, "rob@xxxxxxxxx" <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > People, read the small print on Trevor's response:
> > > > > > IBM does not provide AS/400 training any more..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The OP didn't even ask for AS/400.  They asked for IBMi/iSeries.
> > For
> > > > > > this, IBM does offer training.  See some of my earlier emails.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob Berendt
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > Group Dekko
> > > > > > Dept 1600
> > > > > > Mail to:  2505 Dekko Drive
> > > > > >          Garrett, IN 46738
> > > > > > Ship to:  Dock 108
> > > > > >          6928N 400E
> > > > > >          Kendallville, IN 46755
> > > > > > http://www.dekko.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From:   Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To:     Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > > <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Date:   09/23/2011 06:21 PM
> > > > > > Subject:        Re: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
> > > > > > Sent by:        midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IBM does not provide AS/400 training any more..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The IBM Academic Initiative has curriculum for colleges that is IBM
> > i
> > > > and
> > > > > > Power Systems
> > > > > > Related. See here for details:
> > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/university/academicinitiative/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And, the list is much much longer than "hardly any":
> > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/university/ibmi/schools.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/23/11 5:17 PM, "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hardly any colleges or trade schools teaching AS/400 in any
> > form...
> > > > > > > DR2
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob P. Roche
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:15 PM
> > > > > > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are also some colleges still teaching. I think the one I
> > went
> > > > to
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > northern Illinois cancelled their courses, But I know Gateway tech
> > > > in
> > > > > > > south eastern Wisconsin still teaches courses.
> > > > > > >
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