Re: Microsoft SAM -- PCTECH

Whereas I actually prefer the annual true-up. It doesn't mean I can't get
out of counting as I go but does mean the numbers/costs are predictable (if
you've been keeping track) and can be timed to the best quarter from an
accounting view. It also means I have one invoice to process instead of
several/many.

Also, generally speaking, we can build temporary environments for testing
or to handle demand surges and, as long as we decomm them before the annual
check, we don't actually pay any licensing fee as what counts is your
license usage on D-day. At least that's how McAfee does it for their
products that are managed by ePO & how MS did it under Software Assurance;
SAM may count differently.

My perspective is as an employee of a company with around 7000 workstations
& 3000+ servers. In a small business environment it may well be easier to
pay as you go; different sized companies have different needs.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

True enough John. SAM is Microsoft's way to try and mitigate those types
of
problems. My issue with it is more that you should pay as you go, rather
than wait for a catch up check to get cut. I guess it's death by a
thousand
cuts vs. a broadside sword in the end that has to be the choice.

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From: PcTech [mailto:pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Jones
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Subject: Re: [PCTECH] Microsoft SAM

Honestly, though, if you don't have control over your software
distribution/installation process you've got more problems to address.
While it isn't sexy, asset & configuration management needs to be a
priority
in more IT shops. You can't manage it if you don't even know you have it.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Microsoft SAM: Spend Astronomical Money.

It's good if you have control over when and who is buying (installing)
software and building servers and desktop/laptops. Then in the end of
the day you get right with M$ by writing them a check. Very above
board and keeps the lawyers happy. BUT if you don't have good control
over the software copies (source ISOs etc) and there are folks just
installing at will, then it can get ornery (read expensive) really quick.

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When that happened here a few years back we were very close to going
to an all Linux desktop. That never materialized but we seriously had
a bad taste in our mouth. We try to do what's right. I'll grant you
that it wasn't always this way. There used to be an attitude that if
they had one legal copy of Excel per plant that was enough to put it
on the rest of the computers at that plant. Management's changed.
I'll admit, I raised my objection but did as I was told. Again, that
was many years ago. Now if we don't like the terms and conditions we
shop elsewhere.

Rob Berendt
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From: Jeff Crosby <jlcrosby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users <pctech@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 03/13/2015 11:02 AM
Subject: [PCTECH] Microsoft SAM
Sent by: "PcTech" <pctech-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Anybody here been hit with a Microsoft SAM? What was your experience?

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