I've used Pro-Gen for ages and love it. I couldn't write a subfile program
from scratch and don't care. The productivity increase of using Pro-Gen is
phenominal. Your description of it is accurate.

--
Jeff Crosby
UniPro FoodService/Dilgard
P.O. Box 13369
Ft. Wayne, IN 46868-3369
260-422-7531
www.dilgardfoods.com

The opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily the opinion of my
company.  Unless I say so.


-----Original Message-----
From: web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:web400-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 PM
To: Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries
Subject: Re: [WEB400] GWT

I have hesitated to respond because this could so easily turn into a
Holy War.

RPG, Report Program Generator, is a code generator. Its how I make my
living. Can it be a surprise I like it? As I look at other choices
and realize how much RPG does for me, and how well it protects me from
myself, I have be appreciative. Does this mean I believe David's
attitude is misguided? Not at all. He's a fargin' coding genius! He
doesn't need to be protected from himself. :)

I've used, and liked, Pro-Gen. That was a code generator. It required
an attitude of going along to get along. Tweaking generated code was
possible, even easy and well documented. However I never found an
instance where Pro-Gen wouldn't do what I wanted done. Tweaking it was
a waste of client money.

I used, and liked, VARPG which is a drag & drop application builder and
I never saw any benefit to knowing how to create/edit .dll files.

I learned how to write HTML pages with Notepad, but the move to Net
Objects Fusion was a big leap forward in my productivity and
sophistication.

GWT is still not totally baked, but it does allow me to produce usable
stuff, and is web-based,, which is where I want to go, anyway.




James Perkins wrote:
Yes, that's kind of where I was trying to go, but it obviously did not
come
across that way.

I actually don't know that I have heard your opinions on code
generators. I
personally do not like them at all. I don't like the idea of just
anybody
being able to program via a code generator. Having to maintain that code
is
an absolute nightmare. But that's just my opinion on it.

I have downloaded GWT a few times and thought about using it, but it all
comes down to that generated code. Will it produce what I want? What
compromise do I have to make in order to use it? All questions I have
thought, but haven't researched so they may not be issues in GWT. It
just
boils down to "I'm stuck with what ever code it produces" and I'm just
not
a
fan of that. I should probably at check it out though before spewing all
these opinions.

--
James R. Perkins



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