Re: Frameworks

Nathan, I think Dan was saying that the M would just become a facade over
the REST services, but C and V have no dependency on ODBC/JDBC. So the
shift to REST only replaces the part of M that uses the database, and that
hardly invalidates MVC frameworks.

Now if you are interested in PHP frameworks, and don't want to use the MVC
pattern, you could go with Zend. They have developed a system of middleware
seperate from the MVC pattern. It may be just what the doctor ordered.
Check this out https://docs.zendframework.com/zend-expressive/

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:15 PM Nathan Andelin <nandelin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:30 PM, Dan Lanza <DLanza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

ODBC/JDBC/ORM are not cornerstones of PHP MVC frameworks in any way.

You appear to be saying that the "M" in MVC frameworks is not dependent on
ODBC/JDBC or an ORM in any way. Can you explain that?

I don't follow how if someone is considering PHP web frameworks, they may

be thinking of doing too much in PHP.

Some people would suggest that a best practice is to implement data
validation, referential integrity, database related business rules, and any
other logic that requires database access - to implement that type of logic
in the same address space as the DBMS. Any logic that is incidental to
database read, write, update, and delete events, for example.
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